1 1 PLANNING BOARD 2 TOWN OF ROTTERDAM, NEW YORK 3 --------------------------------------------------------- 4 PARTIAL DUNNSVILLE ROAD RELOCATION AND CONCEPTUAL DISTRIBUTION CENTER EXPANSION 5 TOWN OF ROTTERDAM, SCHENECTADY COUNTY, NEW YORK 6 --------------------------------------------------------- 7 STENOGRAPHIC MINUTES OF PUBLIC HEARING conducted 8 in the above-entitled matter on the 5th day of May, 2009, 9 at the Rotterdam Town Hall, 1100 Sunrise Boulevard, 10 Schenectady, New York, commencing at 7:30 p.m. 11 BOARD MEMBERS: 12 LAWRENCE N. DILALLO, CHAIRMAN FRANK RENNA, VICE CHAIRMAN 13 PETER COMENZO, SENIOR PLANNER DAVID SAVINI 14 RICHARD E. KARP JOHN DENNY, III 15 LYNN FLANSBURG DANIEL BRUDOS 16 MARLO L. CARTER, SECRETARY 17 TOWN ATTORNEY: ROB COAN TOWN ENGINEER: CHRIS EINSTEIN, 18 Clough Harbour & Associates 19 APPEARANCES: 20 WHITEMAN, OSTERMAN & HANNA, LLP One Commerce Plaza 21 Albany, New York 12260 BY: TERRESA M. BAKNER, ESQ. 22 23 ALSO PRESENT: Ronald J. Laberge, P.E. Laberge Group 24 2 1 INDEX TO SPEAKERS 2 SPEAKER PAGE 3 CHAIRMAN DILALLO 4 Opening Remarks............................... 5 5 RONALD J. LABERGE, P.E. Presentation to the public.................... 7 6 THOMAS YUILLE, Resident 7 203 Dolan Drive............................... 11 8 JOHN MCAULIFFE, Resident 201 Dolan Drive............................... 20, 45 9 JULIUS PASQUARIELLO, Resident 10 345 Dolan Drive............................... 26 11 MARI WARNER, Resident 205 Dolan Drive............................... 28 12 RICHARD MALACZYNSKI, Resident 13 402 Deer Path................................. 30 14 ANN ARMSTRONG, Resident 1007 Benjamin Place, Antonia Hills............ 39 15 JAN GREENE, Resident 16 590 Duanesburg Road........................... 41 17 SANDRA SUITS, Resident 1021 St. Lucille Drive, Antonia Hills......... 43 18 STEPHANIE BITTER, ESQUIRE 19 Counsel for Cumberland Farms.................. 47 20 RICHARD FONTAINE, Resident 41 Kellar Avenue.............................. 48 21 PHYLLIS STANTON, Resident 22 617 Duanesburg Road........................... 51 23 STEVE TOMMASONE, Town Supervisor/Resident 1337 Paul Avenue.............................. 55 24 3 1 INDEX TO SPEAKERS CONTINUED 2 SPEAKER PAGE 3 CHAIRMAN DILALLO Comments....................................... 63 4 DANIEL BRUDOS, Board Member 5 Comments....................................... 65 6 LYNN FLANSBURG, Board Member Comments....................................... 67 7 FRANK RENNA, Board Member 8 Comments....................................... 70 9 JOHN DENNY, Board Member Comments....................................... 71 10 RICHARD E. KARP, Board Member 11 Comments....................................... 71 12 DAVID SAVINI, Board Member Comments....................................... 72 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 4 1 P R O C E E D I N G S 2 (Roll call.) 3 (Pledge of Allegiance.) 4 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: I'd like to welcome Steve 5 Tommasone, our Supervisor, Art Brassard, 6 Schenectady County Election Commissioner, Tom 7 Yuille, former member of the Planning Commission, 8 former Chairman. Good evening. 9 Tonight, we have the Golub Corporation for a 10 draft scope public hearing for the proposed Golub 11 project to relocate a portion of Dunnsville Road 12 and increase the warehousing capability of the 13 site by approximately 410,000 square feet. 14 With us tonight, we have from Price 15 Chopper -- does somebody want to get up and 16 introduce themselves and introduce who's with you 17 tonight? 18 MS. BAKNER: Yes, I will, Mr. Chairman. With 19 me tonight is Chet Pennachia who's in charge of 20 the project for Golub. Right immediately beside 21 him is Jim Connors from Chazen who's going to be 22 preparing the Draft Environmental Statement. And 23 next to him is Ron Laberge, Jr., from Laberge 24 Engineering who's doing the technical work and the 5 1 design plans. 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 3 Part of the public hearing tonight is to -- 4 I'll just read this. This is on our website. It 5 says, "The Golub Corporation is proposing to 6 relocate a portion of Dunnsville Road and increase 7 the warehousing capability of the site by 8 approximately 400,000 square feet of gross floor 9 area to consolidate and expand warehousing 10 operations in the Town of Rotterdam. The 11 Rotterdam Planning Board, as lead agency, has 12 determined that an Environmental Impact Statement 13 should be prepared for this project. 14 "The first step is to prepare a scoping 15 document. A scoping document sets forth the 16 issues that should be studied in the draft EIS. 17 The applicant has prepared a draft scoping 18 document for further review and comment. Any 19 individual may request a copy by contacting Peter 20 Comenzo, 355-7575, extension 338." 21 And the document is also available at the 22 Rotterdam branch of the Schenectady County 23 library, or from the Town of Rotterdam website at 24 Rotterdamny.org. 6 1 The purpose of this public hearing is to 2 obtain public comment on the draft scoping 3 document, in particular, whether there are issues 4 that should be studied that have not been 5 identified by the applicant or whether the 6 identified issues should be studied in a certain 7 way. 8 So does anybody have any -- well, I won't ask 9 for questions right now. I just want to have 10 Price Chopper give a brief presentation and then 11 we'll open up the public hearing. 12 MS. BAKNER: While Mr. Laberge sets up the 13 boards, I just wanted to indicate as we did last 14 time that we're very interested in getting public 15 comment on the draft scope and that it's our 16 intention as soon as we have the transcript for 17 the public scoping session and the comments, which 18 people have until the 18th to write in, March 19 18th, that we will -- 20 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: May 18th. 21 MS. BAKNER: May 18th. Excuse me. And that 22 we will revise the document then and re-submit it 23 back to the Town. 24 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Okay. Just give your name 7 1 for the record, please. 2 MS. BAKNER: Terresa Bakner from Whiteman, 3 Osterman & Hanna -- 4 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 5 MS. BAKNER: -- representing Golub. So it's 6 our plan not only to revise the scope, that we 7 address all the suggested changes, but in the 8 event as the regulations require there is anything 9 that is not incorporated, we will also put that 10 forth and explain why in writing. 11 MR. LABERGE: Good evening. My name is Ron 12 Laberge from Laberge Engineering & Consulting 13 Group. 14 (Pause in the proceedings.) 15 MR. LABERGE: This board just represents the 16 existing site of Golub's operation today. This is 17 their warehouse facility. Route 7 here is across 18 the top, railroad tracks and the overpass. And 19 Dunnsville Road is here. That's just so 20 everybody -- we know everybody here probably knows 21 the area pretty well, but that's the existing 22 condition of today. 23 What's being proposed is really three pieces. 24 One is the relocation of Dunnsville Road. As part 8 1 of that, in a separate piece also is the Route 7 2 improvement and then, of course, the warehouse 3 expansion. 4 This plan presents the relocation of 5 Dunnsville Road. Today, Dunnsville Road goes 6 right through here. It's being proposed to move 7 the intersection, which is currently located at 8 that location on Route 7, approximately 800 feet 9 west towards the National Grid power lines and 10 then come down and intersect with Dunnsville Road 11 just near the power lines. 12 A buffer area has been left to maintain some 13 of those tall trees that are on the east side of 14 the National Grid right-of-way. Also, as part of 15 the project, the actual roadway would be 16 maintained as part of a driveway into the existing 17 facility and trucks would enter and exit the site 18 down at this location. 19 Route 7 would be actually widened slightly 20 with a median and an appropriate turning lane at 21 this intersection. There'd be a left turn lane 22 for westbound traffic. And down at the Dunnsville 23 Road intersection with the truck entrance, there 24 would be a right-hand turn lane and that would be 9 1 a four-way stop. The Route 7 intersection would 2 be signalized. 3 What this project does obviously is move 4 Dunnsville Road to the west to free up this space 5 for future warehouse development. 6 This is just a conceptual plan of proposed 7 development. This roughly 360,000 square feet of 8 warehouse combined with new warehouse in this area 9 on-site is the 410,000 square feet mentioned in 10 the scoping document. 11 Again, access would be through the relocated 12 Dunnsville Road, but this intersection -- where 13 the existing intersection is today would also be 14 signalized access to the parking lot. 15 As you can see, the warehouse loading area is 16 on the far side of the building from the 17 residential portion of the property or 18 neighborhood in the location of the existing 19 warehouse loading docks on the existing 20 facility. 21 Of course, with every plan, there's 22 associated parking. Stormwater management will be 23 required and so on and so forth. But in essence, 24 that's kind of a snapshot of what is being 10 1 proposed as part of this project. 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Okay. Thank you. As all 3 of us know, too, after we get through with the 4 SEQRA process on this project, it'll have to go 5 before the Town Board for a change of zone and 6 also an amendment to the Comp Plan. And I was 7 going to ask Mr. Tommasone -- he must have 8 stepped out. At some point in time, Mr. Tommasone 9 would like to give his comments. 10 So in the meantime, we're gonna ask, in an 11 orderly fashion, people to come up and make their 12 comments. And, also, I'm going to be in eye 13 contact with our steno here to make sure that she 14 gets your name and address proper. 15 So right now, I would like to open the public 16 hearing and ask if there's anybody who would like 17 to come up. And, also, I think everybody heard 18 that if you forget something tonight and you'd 19 like to make more comments, you have until May 20 18th to get them mailed in to Peter Comenzo. 21 MR. COMENZO: I did get a few e-mails. I got 22 one from Yvonne Thick and William Cross, and that 23 was dated April 22nd. And we also have a copy of 24 a comment from Jan Greene sent on April 27th. And 11 1 those are in your packs and are part of the 2 record. 3 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Steve, would you like to 4 have a couple comments? I was introducing you, 5 then I noticed you were gone. Would you like to 6 wait until after the public comment? 7 MR. TOMMASONE: Yeah, that's fine. 8 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: I just explained the 9 process where after our SEQRA that it would be 10 before the Town Board for a zone change and also 11 for the amendment to the Comp Plan. Mr. Tommasone 12 couldn't make your last meeting, because he was 13 away on business, and I think I explained that at 14 my last meeting, but has been in constant contact 15 over this project and very well aware of the 16 feelings here and how you guys feel here tonight. 17 So I'll open the public hearing. Mr. 18 Yuille's gonna come up. 19 MR. YUILLE: I apologize for reading it, but 20 I don't want to leave anything out. 21 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: That's fine. 22 MS. CARTER: State your address. 23 MR. YUILLE: My name is Thomas Yuille, 203 24 Dolan Drive. There are a couple of things I'd 12 1 like to say before I read the document that I 2 have. 3 If you look at that plan right there with 4 that 360,000 square foot warehouse on it, if 5 you've been up on State Street near the Mohawk 6 Commons and see what's being done to the 7 Ingersoll property up there where they cut all the 8 trees down on that point, that's what that's gonna 9 look like, because they're gonna cut every tree 10 down from that 35-foot border all the way up to 11 Cumberland Farms. 12 If you've been up there, I know when you 13 first see it, to me, it took me by surprise. 14 That's what that's gonna look like. That's what 15 Rotterdam's gonna look like. 16 If you've ever driven down Railroad Avenue in 17 Albany, that's what that area is gonna look like. 18 It's gonna be warehouses all the way down through 19 and I'm not sure that's the look we want for 20 Rotterdam. 21 We may want to wait for this for Supervisor 22 Tommasone, but I wanted to know when the change of 23 zone was gonna be done, because I looked through 24 my records for the last six years and I haven't 13 1 been able to find any project where the change of 2 zone was done last. We always did the change of 3 zone the first or maybe second meeting so that the 4 developer or the person who was building knew 5 where they were headed. At this point, it's not 6 fair to you to have the change of zone done last 7 if you spend all this time on this project and 8 then, at the end, the change of zone is not 9 granted for whatever reason. 10 Also, it's not fair to the developer or, in 11 this case, Golub, to spend two or three or four 12 hundred thousand dollars on engineering costs, 13 legal costs, and have it done at the end. It 14 should be done in the beginning in fairness to 15 everybody, the residents, the Planning Commission, 16 and to the developer. But Mr. Tommasone can 17 address that later on. 18 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Mr. Einstein can answer 19 that right now, because I've asked the question 20 before myself. 21 MR. YUILLE: Who is that anyway? 22 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Mr. Einstein is a SEQRA 23 expert from Clough Harbour, the Town-designated 24 engineer. 14 1 MR. EINSTEIN: The Board is going to 2 undertake the SEQRA process. So the first -- 3 MR. YUILLE: Which board? 4 MR. EINSTEIN: Sorry. The Planning Board. 5 The Planning Commission will be doing the SEQRA 6 process. So that's why this is before the 7 Planning Commission right now. 8 The answer to your question is yes, the 9 zoning would have to come first in terms of 10 approval process before it would come back to the 11 Commission for site plan, but yes. 12 But it is required that the SEQRA process be 13 done and the Planning Commission is the lead 14 agency on that process. 15 MR. YUILLE: Okay. 16 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: I believe that it was 17 midway through the process for -- 18 MR. YUILLE: No. It first was done. We 19 changed the zone first, I believe, in looking back 20 through my notes. I could be wrong, Larry, but I 21 thought it was done first. Peter might know. 22 The second thing I want to know -- it came to 23 light when I was watching the Town Board meeting 24 on Saturday. A question was asked by Mr. 15 1 Godlewski (phonetic) about the critical impact 2 permit. Because if you remember, that came 3 through during the Wal-Mart process and this was a 4 legislation or something that was added to the 5 Town Code that has to also be approved by the Town 6 Board. 7 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Right. 8 MR. YUILLE: And I went back through and 9 looked at my notes. It was from October 17th, I 10 think, of 2006. And in the minutes, it was said 11 that this would be done parallel to the process of 12 the development. Mr. Mertz made that statement. 13 So I want to know when that's done also. 14 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Yeah. That has to be done 15 by the Town Board also. 16 MR. YUILLE: Okay. Those were the only 17 questions that I had. 18 So I apologize for reading this, but I would 19 like to get through this. Mr. Chairman, 20 Commission members, my personal opinion on the 21 Golub project, the relocation of Dunnsville Road 22 and the warehouse expansion, is that this project 23 should not even be considered. I make this 24 statement for the following reasons: Rezoning 16 1 this parcel to I-1 (Light Industrial) would 2 drastically change the character of the adjoining 3 neighborhoods. This has always been a residential 4 area matching the areas going to the west. The 5 relocation of this portion of Dunnsville Road 6 would create a hardship on the residents of Dolan 7 Drive. 8 The noise from the commercial trucks that 9 would be accessing the facility on a 24-hour, 10 7-day-a-week basis would be a major concern, not 11 to mention the air pollution caused by all the 12 commercial vehicles using the new road. 13 The Golub representative at a previous 14 meeting gave me an estimate that there are 15 approximately 1,000 Golub trucks that leave the 16 site each week. Additionally, there are also 17 approximately 500 vendor trucks that come to this 18 site each week to deliver products. This gives us 19 a total of about 1,500 trucks per week that would 20 be using this new Dunnsville Road. 21 Let's not forget that the Golub trucks that 22 leave the site would be returning some time that 23 week and the vendor trucks would probably be 24 leaving that same day. So, now, that total is now 17 1 double and gives us, well, 3,000 commercial 2 vehicles that will be accessing that new section 3 of Dunnsville Road, and not also -- this number 4 doesn't also reflect the countless numbers of 5 commercial vehicles that travel on Dunnsville Road 6 every day. 7 The proposed addition of over 400,000 square 8 feet of warehouse space and the possibility of 9 additional Price Chopper retail stores in the 10 coming years will certainly also bring more trucks 11 in and out of this facility each week. The truck 12 traffic on the relocated section of Dunnsville 13 Road will also create additional noise, because 14 these trucks will be starting and stopping at the 15 traffic signal at the intersection of Dunnsville 16 and Duanesburg Road. 17 These trucks will again be required to stop 18 and start at the four-way stop sign that was 19 mentioned at the intersection where they're 20 entering and leaving the Golub facility, which 21 will also be required to stop and start at this 22 intersection. 23 One important factor to keep in mind is that 24 this newly relocated section of Dunnsville Road 18 1 will be approximately 200 feet from the one-family 2 residential properties on Dolan Drive. 3 The new traffic signal at the intersection of 4 Duanesburg Road and the new section of Dunnsville 5 Road will also cause a backup of traffic and cars 6 on Duanesburg Road making it almost impossible to 7 safely exit Dolan Drive onto Duanesburg Road. 8 This stopping and starting of traffic on 9 Duanesburg Road at the new traffic signal will 10 also cause an excessive amount of noise and 11 vibration to the surrounding homes on Duanesburg 12 and Dolan Drive. 13 Lastly, also take into account the normal 14 noise that would be associated with a 24/7 15 operation of a 360,000 square foot warehouse 16 facility as proposed under the expansion plan. 17 It is for these reasons I offer the following 18 recommendations as alternative solutions for the 19 Board to consider: Leave the existing 10-acre 20 parcel as it is today with the possibility of 21 another future project more suitable to this area 22 and the adjoining neighborhoods; relocate 23 Dunnsville Road and its existing entrance to the 24 Golub facility so it is now aligned with Kellar 19 1 Avenue; relocate the traffic signal at the 2 Duanesburg Road and Dunnsville Road intersection 3 to help solve the traffic congestion problems for 4 the vehicles trying to exit Kellar Avenue. 5 Once a new Golub office facility building is 6 finished in downtown Schenectady, there will be no 7 need to keep the existing office building at the 8 current Golub facility. This building can be 9 demolished to make room for additional warehouse 10 space. 11 I would estimate this new space would create 12 between 150,000 to 200,000 square feet of 13 additional new warehouse space. The newly created 14 warehouse space would give Golub the ability to 15 relocate its facility currently located in 16 Voorheesville to the Rotterdam facility as they 17 have proposed with the existing project. 18 Rotterdam Industrial Park recently announced 19 that they would be demolishing Building Numbers 9 20 and 10 inside the park to create a shuttle-ready 21 site for prospective tenants to occupy a 500,000 22 square foot warehouse building. They stated at 23 the last Rotterdam Town Board meeting that they 24 currently do not have a tenant or tenants for this 20 1 project. This would give Golub a perfect 2 opportunity to obtain a new warehouse facility 3 inside a secure industrial park. 4 Golub is currently operating a 152,000 5 square foot freezer facility inside the same 6 industrial park and the operation seems to be 7 working well for them. This would give Golub a 8 time frame where they could attempt to renegotiate 9 with the Army Corps of Engineers to try and come 10 up with a workable solution for use of some of the 11 90 acres of land located behind their current 12 facility. Possibly, the Town of Rotterdam and 13 local residents could assist Golub with these 14 negotiations. 15 Golub has other options. The residents on 16 Dolan Drive, if this project does approve, have no 17 options. Our options are done. Thank you. 18 (Applause.) 19 MR. MCAULIFFE: Good evening. John 20 McAuliffe, 201 Dolan Drive. Comments for the 21 partial Dunnsville Road relocation and conceptual 22 distribution center expansion. This is in 23 response to the meeting at Town Hall on April 24 21st. These are my questions and comments I want 21 1 answered. 2 What are your plans to protect the 3 residential neighborhoods from increased traffic, 4 noise, lighting, poor air quality and inadequate 5 buffers? 6 Are the New York State Department of 7 Environmental Conservation, DEC, New York State 8 Department of Health, DOH, and New York State 9 Department of Transportation, DOT, involved? 10 Would they be reviewing and required to 11 approve this project? 12 The noise and trucking will be greatly 13 increased in the Dolan Drive area as trucks will 14 need to downshift and break to enter the new 15 entrance planned in this residential area. What 16 studies will be done and what are the plans to 17 mitigate these problems? 18 The new planned entrance of road is so close 19 to Dolan Drive's only access that it will be 20 extremely difficult to enter and exit the 21 neighborhood. Property values will be harmed 22 because of the added difficulty. How will 23 emergency vehicles have quick access to this 24 neighborhood as there are many elderly and people 22 1 with health problems in this neighborhood? 2 What are the other options that are being 3 presented? 4 I am requesting the Town of Rotterdam and 5 Clough Harbour do a study and present all options. 6 Why would a new entrance be planned next to a 7 residential area when Golub already has an 8 entrance near a commercial area? 9 If Golub has been a strong supporter of 10 Rotterdam and the people there, why are they 11 trying to destroy a long-established neighborhood 12 of over 30 homes when there are so many other 13 options? 14 Why are Rotterdam officials even considering 15 a zone change that will allow a loud road and 16 industrial zoning to surround a property of a 17 senior couple, the Schmidts, that do not want to 18 move because of disability issues? 19 They've lived in the neighborhood that had 20 residential homes around them and were demolished 21 by the Golub Corporation. Why has Golub been 22 allowed to destroy and tear down complete 23 sections of residential neighborhood, change the 24 look and feel of a complete area while they 23 1 evidently plan to change the residential area to 2 business anyways? 3 How are these requested changes not 4 considered spot zoning? 5 I'd like to know what number of jobs and tax 6 base will be lost in Rotterdam when the office 7 facilities are moved to the City of Schenectady. 8 I'm requesting information from a study 9 provided or one be done regarding the number of 10 trucks that will enter and exit the new road per 11 maximum build, not what's there now but what 12 they're proposing. I'd like to know what that's 13 about. 14 How traffic would be lined up on Duanesburg 15 Road, what will be the increased truck traffic? 16 I'm requesting studies showing how far time 17 access to Dolan Drive would be blocked with 18 maximum increased traffic. 19 Since this land was originally purchased and 20 intended for a low impact office building with a 21 minimum increase of truck traffic, hasn't Golub 22 caused a self-created hardship by waiting to use 23 it for other purposes now? I don't get this. 24 Golub is removing hundreds of jobs from 24 1 Rotterdam along with existing office space 2 changing to lower taxed warehouse space. Is Golub 3 being offered any incentives to change the present 4 structure for any new additional warehouse, 5 Metroplex, Pilot programs, whatever? What's he 6 getting? 7 Why is the Town of Rotterdam considering 8 ruining the value and living conditions of Dolan 9 Drive over a 10-acre area and other home sites up 10 and down Dolan and Duanesburg to rezone a small 11 area that might not even be built on? It's a 12 proposal. 13 But a road will be built that will impact 14 complete residential areas and ruin their living 15 conditions and ruin the assessed value of these 16 properties decreasing Rotterdam's tax base even 17 further. 18 Why has there been no involvement to date in 19 any public meeting by our elected officials -- I 20 see Mr. Tommasone here; thank you -- when a 21 residential community's living conditions and home 22 values need to be protected and guidance provided? 23 The plan calls for a 35-foot buffer from the 24 road to the Dolan Drive neighborhood. I'd like to 25 1 know what is a normal buffer for a heavy duty road 2 for trucks and why has a buffer that is so small 3 next to a residential area been requested? 35 4 feet is just ridiculous. 5 Under what authority will a public road be 6 given to a private company? I don't get this. 7 I'd also like to know where are the Lupine 8 plants, Pine Pitch and Pine Barrens located on 9 this land? Will any of them be disturbed by this 10 project? 11 How will this affect the Karner Blue 12 Butterfly, the Frosted Elfin Butterfly and any 13 other species in this area? 14 Have any present or absence surveys been 15 previously conducted on any of this property? 16 What is the date they were done and what were the 17 results? 18 Why is this project not moving to the 19 Rotterdam Industrial Park? Tom laid the 20 groundwork on that. It seems to be a no-brainer 21 here. The infrastructure is there and you're not 22 affecting people. I just -- I don't get it. 23 At what point will you be releasing the 24 impact studies to the public? Sincerely, John 26 1 McAuliffe. Thank you. 2 (Applause.) 3 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Julius Pasquariello, 345 4 Dolan Drive. I wrote the letter, but my son was 5 going to read it. I have macular degeneration. I 6 have provide you folks a copy and also to the 7 attorney. Frankly, there is nothing new in this. 8 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Do you want me to read it 9 for you? 10 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Would you mind? 11 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Sure. 12 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Thank you. I appreciate 13 that. 14 Perhaps, if you would like to read it twice, 15 ma'am, you're welcome to. (Handing to Ms. 16 Bakner) 17 You're laughing. There's nothing to laugh. 18 I haven't heard once what is the benefit for Dolan 19 Drive, not once. 20 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Sir, let me read your 21 letter. 22 MR. PASQUARIELLO: I'm sorry. Thank you. 23 Sorry, sir. I was out of order. 24 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: The letter is from Julius 27 1 Pasquariello from 345 Dolan Drive. 2 "Dear Planning Commission: I'm writing as a 3 resident of Dolan Drive urging you to oppose 4 Golub's plan to move Dunnsville closer to our 5 street. This would devastate our neighborhood 6 causing a reduction of our home value as well as 7 disruption of our serenity of our quiet 8 neighborhood. Not only would this new road harm 9 our neighborhood, it would ruin the Golub 10 Corporation's reputation of being environmentally 11 friendly. 12 "I appreciate the meeting held on April 20th 13 held by the members of the Golub team overseeing 14 this project. It gave all of us an opportunity to 15 express our opinions and concerns. Many concerns 16 were raised regarding the potential outcomes of 17 Dolan Drive and the surrounding streets, 18 Dunnsville Road and Kellar Avenue residents. 19 "Although representatives did their best to 20 explain the project, they failed to convince us to 21 the benefits to our neighborhood. Not one of the 22 members was able to answer our concerns 23 satisfactorily. 24 "The Golub Corporation has earned a 28 1 respectable reputation over the years. It has 2 been cited in the media regarding its 3 environmental concerns. Recently, it was credited 4 with converting the old Big N Plaza to an 5 environmental friendly facility which was 6 originally intended for this area between Dolan 7 Drive and Dunnsville Road. This new road 8 contradicts its vision and destroys its 9 environmental reputation. 10 "There is no benefit to Dolan Drive and the 11 surrounding neighborhoods if this new road were to 12 become a reality. It would also reduce the 13 reputation of the west side of Rotterdam as a 14 quiet and friendly place to live and raise a 15 family. Please reconsider moving Dunnsville Road. 16 Sincerely, Julius Pasquariello." 17 (Applause.) 18 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Yes, sir -- or ma'am. 19 MS. WARNER: Mari Warner, 205 Dolan Drive. 20 I, too, will leave you with a copy and I'm just 21 gonna highlight a few of the things that have 22 already been discussed, but I want to reiterate 23 it. 24 Concerns that I have that I'd like to see 29 1 added to the Golub scoping document: I'd like to 2 request a study of the effect this project will 3 have on the assessed values of the neighboring 4 homes and I think that can be done. As Julius 5 stated, what exactly are the benefits that this 6 will bring me, a resident who lives approximately 7 172 feet from the proposed warehouse? 8 What would be the hours of operation for the 9 warehouse and how many people would be employed? 10 How many new jobs will be created? This does 11 not include the jobs that were transferred from 12 Voorheesville. This information will affect the 13 traffic study. 14 A traffic study needs to be conducted beyond 15 the peak hours, as suggested. Presently, trucks 16 travel all hours of the night and day. A study of 17 traffic for one week, 24 hours a day, is 18 requested. This study would be conducted on 19 Dunnsville and Duanesburg Road running both east 20 and west. 21 The Golub Corporation, it is assumed, will be 22 receiving financial incentives in order to expand. 23 Please list these incentives and what these 24 incentives will cost the taxpayers of Rotterdam. 30 1 And what will they cost the taxpayers of the 2 Schalmont School District? 3 Existing air quality studies at the proposed 4 site based on the last five years is not an 5 adequate study. This does not measure the CO2 6 levels that increase due to the proposed change of 7 Dunnsville Road emissions from the stop and go 8 traffic can't be measured at this time right now. 9 It is still -- and I know you tried to 10 explain it. Call me foolish, but I still do not 11 understand why the Town Board does not address the 12 change of zone that is required for this project 13 to go forward. It makes sense to change the zone 14 prior to spending money and time on a DEIS. And 15 when will Golub obtain that change? 16 I would like to know what the involvement of 17 the Albany Pine Bush is. Their organization ends 18 with this piece of property. And, finally, please 19 list how this project does not affect my quality 20 of life as a neighboring resident. Thank you. 21 (Applause.) 22 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 23 Yes, sir. 24 MR. MALACZYNSKI: My name is Richard 31 1 Malaczynski. I live at 402 Deer Path. I have a 2 number of comments here for the Planning 3 Commission and I did bring a copy for the Planning 4 Commission, so it probably isn't necessary to take 5 detailed notes on this. 6 The first comment that I have -- and I'm 7 going through these comments as I went through the 8 document as posted on the Town of Rotterdam 9 website, which is the draft scoping document. 10 My first comment is on page 2 of 19 of the 11 draft scoping document, and I'm quoting a section 12 from the scoping document. "The proposed partial 13 relocation of Dunnsville Road will be reviewed as 14 an action immediately proposed for approval. The 15 future expansion of the distribution center on the 16 site will be looked at in a generic manner." 17 On page 7 of 19 of the same document, the 18 quote is: "Since the expansion of the 19 distribution center, 408,000 square feet, is 20 conceptual, the DEIS, which is the Draft 21 Environmental Impact Statement, will include a 22 discussion of impact thresholds and any additional 23 studies or actions that may be necessary when a 24 site plan for the expansion is eventually 32 1 submitted." 2 And my comment with respect to these two 3 sections in here is that in accordance with SEQRA 4 Section 617.3 General Rules, subsection (g)(1), 5 this is a quote from SEQRA, "Actions commonly 6 consist of a set of activities or steps. The 7 entire set of activities or steps must be 8 considered the action, whether the agency 9 decision-making relates to the action as a whole 10 or to only a part of it." 11 Considering only a part or segment of an 12 action is contrary to the intent of SEQRA. 13 Now, what this means is that the proposal, at 14 least according to the draft scoping document, is 15 that there's going to be the road relocation and 16 then there's going to be a future evaluation with 17 respect to the warehouse. And in accordance to 18 SEQRA, you can't segment those two components of 19 the project. You're not going to relocate 20 Dunnsville Road unless you put the warehouse in. 21 So those two actions are contiguous and can't be 22 segmented. That's the first comment on that. 23 The second issue that I have is on page 3 of 24 19. It says, "The applicant is seeking change of 33 1 zone and Comprehensive Plan amendment." And my 2 comment to that is that the amendment of a Town 3 Comprehensive Plan is in and of itself a SEQRA 4 process. 5 Section 617.4 Type I Actions, subsection 6 (b)(3), "The granting of a zoning change at the 7 request of an applicant for an action that meets 8 or exceeds one or more of the thresholds given 9 elsewhere in this list --" and referencing 10 activities are land disturbance of 10 acres or 11 more and a hundred thousand square feet of 12 footprint. Those are the two criteria. So the 13 action's a Type I action, but it requires an 14 amendment to the Town Comprehensive Plan. 15 The Town, the Planning Commission as 16 representative for the Town, is separate and 17 independent from the Golub project. So any change 18 or modification to the Town Comprehensive Plan is 19 its own SEQRA undertaking that the Town of 20 Rotterdam has to pursue. The relocation of the 21 road, the development of a possible warehouse, 22 that is something that the applicant is requesting 23 that could only be fostered if the Comprehensive 24 Plan is changed. 34 1 So there's two SEQRA actions or activities 2 here. One of them is that the modification of the 3 Town Comprehensive Plan is its own SEQRA action. 4 The other action is what the Golub Corporation is 5 proposing to do. 6 So the Town should be aware that any change 7 or amendment to an existing Comprehensive Plan 8 requires the Town's own SEQRA action. 9 On page 6 of 19, there is 1.3, List of 10 Interested Agencies, and my comment to that is if 11 Dunnsville Road is to be relocated abutting the 12 National Grid transmission easement, the applicant 13 will have to coordinate with this agency to 14 identify any special precautions, such as 15 guardrails along the roadway or something to that 16 effect to prevent any kind of errant traffic from 17 hitting a transmission tower. 18 The existing situation does not jeopardize 19 the National Grid transmission power lines and 20 towers, because the road, Dunnsville Road, is 21 perpendicular to the transmission line. Your new 22 relocation is parallel to the transmission line. 23 So you will have to coordinate with National Grid 24 to see if they have any special requirements when 35 1 you relocate a road adjacent to their transmission 2 line. 3 My fourth comment is on page 6 of 19, Section 4 1.6, Public Need and Benefits. "The applicant 5 must identify during the study any and all tax 6 incentives that are offered or projected as this 7 has an impact on the benefits of the project," 8 which is part of the SEQRA process. 9 "Although IDA project status may be declared 10 after a project is constructed, such a measure 11 actually would circumvent SEQRA." 12 So any tax incentive, IDA funding, Metroplex, 13 Empire Zone, whatever, for this project needs to 14 be identified up-front. 15 The fifth item I have is on page 12 of 19. 16 It's Section 3.4 in the draft scoping document on 17 Transportation. And I have a section in my 18 comments that I clipped from the Town 19 Comprehensive Plan that was done in 2001. And, 20 basically, the gist of it says that Study Area 1 21 would exceed the maximum acceptable level of 22 service of D and E for capacity by the year of 23 2005. 24 So we are currently in the year 2009, well 36 1 beyond that, and now the proposal is to bring 2 additional truck traffic or whatnot down through 3 this corridor which will diminish the level of 4 service even further. 5 So my comment regarding this is the original 6 traffic volume numbers from this study that was 7 used in the Town Comprehensive Plan needs to be 8 compared and incorporated into the Draft 9 Environmental Impact study when the traffic study 10 is promulgated and made a part of that project. 11 Item number six, page 15 of 19, it has to do 12 with "Utilities - Water and Wastewater." 13 A wastewater treatment plant capacity study needs 14 to be done, because the existing Rotterdam 15 Wastewater Treatment Plant only has limited 16 capacity. There are a number of projects that are 17 within the Town that all have plans to connect to 18 the Wastewater Treatment Plant. I think the Curry 19 Road condominiums, the potential Golub warehouse, 20 any future additions within the Rotterdam Town 21 Industrial Park, Helderberg Meadows, all of these 22 projects all have proposed plans to hook into the 23 Wastewater Treatment Plant and there needs to be a 24 listing of projects that are gonna be going 37 1 forward, the expected discharges from all of these 2 projects and this needs to be evaluated with what 3 the capacity of the treatment plant is. 4 Number seven: This item is not listed in the 5 draft scoping document and it was already somewhat 6 mentioned. It has to do with property value 7 assessment and the study has to include property 8 devaluation information for having light 9 industrial zoning changes where predevelopment 10 conditions had more of a buffer area and if there 11 was more protection for the existing residents and 12 their property. 13 The last one that I have is again not listed 14 in the draft scoping document and that has to do 15 with the type of warehousing. The study needs to 16 indicate if the proposed activity creates any 17 danger to surrounding residents. An example of 18 this might be something like the use of anhydrous 19 ammonia for refrigeration which is extremely 20 dangerous to respiratory function in the event of 21 an accident and a leak. 22 There have been, as most people probably 23 know, a number of incidents at the existing Price 24 Chopper facility, nothing extremely problematic 38 1 or fatal at this point, but the potential exists. 2 And the issue is that we have a group of 3 residential people that currently are in limited, 4 or in no, harm or jeopardy and to bring any kind 5 of a refrigerant closer to the residential area 6 needs to be identified up-front as part of the 7 Draft Environmental Impact Statement. 8 This is also echoed in SEQRA in Section 617.7 9 in Determining Significance, subsection (c)(1), 10 subsection (vii), "the creation of a hazard to 11 human health". This is inclusive of all 12 environmental factors, including impairment of the 13 existing character of a neighborhood. And that's 14 about all that I have. 15 With the traffic, I also have a 16 recommendation that part of the traffic study be 17 included on the southerly border of Horizon 18 Boulevard, which is off of Dunnsville Road. The 19 reason why this should be included in the traffic 20 study is because there will be a number of people 21 that will be cutting through El Dorado Acres and 22 not going down Dunnsville Road anymore because of 23 the heavy traffic of the tractor trailers coming 24 through there. 39 1 As a result, these people are gonna go in a 2 different direction, a roundabout way, and come 3 into Rotterdam through Guilderland Avenue. And 4 that part of the traffic component needs to be 5 evaluated as part of the traffic study, because 6 now that's gonna bring a multitude of additional 7 traffic to people that live in that area that were 8 not subjected to that. 9 And those are my comments. Thank you. 10 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Okay. Thank you very 11 much. 12 (Applause.) 13 MS. ARMSTRONG: I'm Ann Armstrong. I live at 14 1007 Benjamin Place in Antonia Hills, which is off 15 of Duanesburg Road. I think we've heard a lot 16 from people who live on Dolan Drive, but we 17 haven't heard anything from many people who live 18 in the other developments off of Duanesburg Road. 19 I'm concerned with traffic. I go west on 20 Duanesburg Road and then where are you? You're at 21 the Burdeck Street intersection at the light. 22 There is no right-hand turn lane. However, if you 23 wait there, you'll see that people drive up that 24 breakdown lane. They are using that all the time. 40 1 That's very dangerous. Why are they doing it? 2 It's because the traffic is so backed up. There's 3 no way to turn right on Burdeck Street, because 4 when they put the new bridge in -- I don't know 5 how many years ago that was -- they blocked off 6 the right-hand turn in front of the Switz 7 (phonetic) property. And, now, that property -- 8 that turn is only into the Switz driveway. 9 So I think we ought to be concerned about the 10 traffic on Duanesburg Road heading west and the 11 backup there, because I'm sure that one of the 12 purposes is to increase the number of trucks 13 coming in and out and that means we're gonna have 14 more of a tie-up on the intersection of Duanesburg 15 Road and Burdeck Street. Thank you. 16 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 17 (Applause.) 18 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Anyone else? 19 MR. MCAULIFFE: Can I have a follow-up 20 question? 21 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Right after her. 22 MS. GREENE: Hello. I'm Jan Greene at 590 23 Duanesburg Road and I just have -- 24 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: We can't hear. 41 1 MS. GREENE: I'm Jan Greene from 590 2 Duanesburg Road. Okay. Our elected town 3 officials of Rotterdam have given in to large 4 developers for too long. Now, Golub Corporation 5 wants you to cave again and give in to more 6 industrial development within this beautiful town. 7 Golub Corporation is asking permission from 8 the Town Board and Zoning Commission to develop 9 vacant land owned by Golub into a 480,000 square 10 foot warehouse and change the current zoning of 11 this plan from agricultural to industrial. 12 This land has been previously developed with 13 single-family homes which Golub purchased, then 14 tore them down knowing this land was zoned 15 agricultural. The wooded area on this land stood 16 for decades, a natural wonder which these woods 17 harbor many species of wildlife and give the Town 18 of Rotterdam bragging rights to being home to the 19 New Karner Butterfly, also known as the monarch. 20 Also, New York State bluebirds find food 21 within these boundaries of that property. To 22 destroy this natural patch of land would be a 23 crime against nature and man. 24 Golub Corporation has relocated their office 42 1 building to Nott Street in Schenectady and will be 2 raising its own office complex so that Golub 3 Corporation will have more space to develop 4 warehouse space within its current headquarters 5 and within their 90-acre parcel. 6 Golub Corporation just wants everybody on the 7 Town Board to put on their blinders and look at 8 this warehouse expansion as a good deal for 9 Rotterdam when, in fact, it is very wrong for so 10 many reasons. 11 Keep this in mind when you vote for this: 12 If you give Golub permission to expand on this 13 parcel of land and change the zoning this time, 14 you will not be able to say no to any future 15 industrial development along Duanesburg Road. 16 If you plan on voting yes to this 17 development, you should change all of Duanesburg 18 Road to industrial so that all the property owners 19 can sell their land to industrial developers, as 20 that is all the land is good for, and make the 21 whole area industrial basically. 22 I am totally against this industrial 23 development along Duanesburg Road. I did have a 24 comment that no one acknowledged my e-mail but 43 1 Peter did. Thank you so much, Peter. I 2 appreciate that. 3 And I am also attaching to my objection a 4 copy from the Sunday Gazette editorial that shows 5 since this inception of the Rotterdam Mall all the 6 commercial development that has been approved 7 that fellow residents of Rotterdam had no say 8 either. Thank you. 9 (Applause.) 10 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 11 MS. SUITS: Sandra Suits. 1021 St. Lucille 12 Drive, Antonia Hills. Reiterating some of the 13 comments here, my concern again is with the 14 traffic corridor. Last summer, I believe it was, 15 when Golub did some construction work on where the 16 warehouse is now, there was a caravan of trucks 17 that went in and out of Dunnsville Road. They did 18 not follow state law. They did not park their 19 trucks. Mud was dropped all over the road. When 20 it was raining, the intersections were slippery. 21 Is this gonna be another problem if they cut 22 a road with Carver Construction or Larned 23 Construction, trucks in and out, mud, 24 nothing is swept, nothing is cleaned up? 44 1 Also, my concern is in this traffic corridor 2 when trucks come out of the Industrial Park, they 3 have to come up over the railroad bridge. They 4 cannot get power going. People get tired of 5 waiting. I can't tell you how many times trucks 6 have pulled out in front of me in an unsafe manner 7 because they're just anxious to get out. I'm 8 coming down the road. 9 Every time practically I go by that 10 Industrial Park, I have to brake safety-wise. 11 People come out of the Industrial Park. Some want 12 to turn over Harold Street. Some want to go down 13 7. Some want to come up. People motion for this 14 one and that one to go. They're going in all 15 directions at that intersection. 16 Then, they come up Route 7. They get to the 17 Burdeck Street light. Again, it's an upgrade. 18 The trucks have trouble shifting, get going. As 19 Ms. Armstrong said, it gets backed up. People 20 can't get going. It's unsafe. And the turning 21 lane -- they need a turning lane there. 22 And my other concern is that I've seen the 23 trucks that come over -- they come up and down 24 that corridor. In the wintertime, there has to be 45 1 some kind of an ordinance or -- I don't know how 2 you go about it, but the trucks need to be cleaned 3 off. I have been almost pelted a couple times 4 myself with debris that flies off the trucks, 5 snow, ice, gets on the road. I have seen other 6 people hit with stuff coming off the trucks. 7 If you're gonna bring double the truck 8 traffic into this area, you also better have some 9 safety regulations involved, because they are not 10 cleaning these trucks off. It's dumping stuff. 11 People are gonna have broken windshields and it's 12 just a terrible safety hazard up through there. 13 When I come home to my place and I'm 14 following a truck, I stay way back and I can't 15 tell you how many times ice debris flies off of 16 those things. It's just a dumping ground. 17 You go on up on the Thruway, the same thing. 18 They pick up speed on the Thruway and stuff flies 19 off those trucks. Not only have we got a traffic 20 problem, but we also have a very unsafe condition 21 with these trucks coming and going. Thank you. 22 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 23 (Applause.) 24 MR. MCAULIFFE: John McAuliffe, 201 Dolan 46 1 again. Just a follow-up question. I was driving 2 home today on the Thruway. I noticed there was 3 some development in that back 80 area, looked like 4 drainage pipe and some other things. I was just 5 curious. I thought it was undeveloped land, 6 couldn't be developed. What was going on back 7 there? Does anybody know? 8 MR. COMENZO: I saw that, too. National 9 Grid is in there. 10 MR. MCAULIFFE: That's strictly National 11 Grid drainage pipe? 12 MR. COMENZO: I'm not sure what it is. 13 MR. MCAULIFFE: It has nothing to do with 14 Golub? 15 MR. COMENZO: I don't know whether it's a 16 conduit for fiberoptic they're working on, a gas 17 line or something. I did see it, too. 18 MR. MCAULIFFE: Let me ask you one other 19 question. There seem to be two pinwheel 20 impressions if you look at the map from the aerial 21 view. Does anybody know what those are? 22 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: That's their remediation 23 area. Terresa Bakner can answer that question. 24 MS. BAKNER: That's the wetland mitigation 47 1 area that was created as a condition of the Army 2 Corps of Engineers permit that was issued for the 3 existing warehouse expansion. 4 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. Any other 5 questions or comments? 6 MS. BITTER: Good evening. My name is 7 Stephanie Bitter. I'm local counsel for 8 Cumberland Farms. I just want to start by 9 stating that I understand the neighbors' concerns 10 and I don't want to diminish any of the things 11 they want to say. 12 I want to recognize Cumberland Farms also has 13 concerns with this road relocation, obviously, 14 from an economic point of view. The road 15 relocation that is proposed is going to allow this 16 lot, which exists now as a corner lot, to 17 essentially become a front lot. 18 It's also our understanding from our client 19 that in conversations they've had with Golub that 20 with this relocation, all access will be cut off 21 from the public, including Cumberland Farms, so 22 that they couldn't even use that side area for 23 ingress and egress. 24 With this project, it's also my understanding 48 1 that DOT intends to relocate the traffic signals, 2 all of which are going to be big factors in 3 diminishing the number of customers that can 4 access this store which then, in turn, will 5 diminish the value. 6 We would like for the applicant to consider 7 this in their study, the economic impact that this 8 road relocation will have on Cumberland Farms, and 9 indicate what mitigation can be done to decrease 10 those impacts. Thank you. 11 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 12 (Applause.) 13 MR. FONTAINE: My name is Richard Fontaine. 14 I reside at 41 Kellar Avenue in the Town of 15 Rotterdam. I have a few questions I'd like to ask 16 the Board. 17 Number one: Has a traffic study been done by 18 the state or anyone else? 19 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Just what you read in 20 2001, I believe. Is that correct? It's the only 21 one. That's what we have right now. 22 MR. FONTAINE: Kellar Avenue, there has been 23 times when you have to wait five or six rotations 24 of the traffic light on the corner of Dunnsville 49 1 Road to get out because of the trucks coming east 2 and westbound on Route 7/Duanesburg Road. At 3 times, you're gonna wait at least 15 minutes 4 before traffic can get out. And as you gentlemen 5 know, there's only two north and south roads in 6 that area, Burdeck and Kellar. For the people on 7 Kellar Avenue and in that neighborhood to get out, 8 they have to basically go down Moyer to South 9 Thompson and come out above the traffic light and 10 then you're taking a chance, because you're going 11 up a hill. You got the hill to your left on 12 Duanesburg Road coming over the bridge and then 13 you have your truck traffic and your normal 14 traffic coming from the other side. 15 At times, it's ridiculous. Even school buses 16 have to wait taking kids to and from school on 17 that corner. 18 The other is emergency vehicles. Coming from 19 Schenectady County as well as outside the county 20 going to Ellis or wherever, again, you have a 21 problem. The trucks, I know, will not pull over 22 for an ambulance coming down Duanesburg Road. I 23 have seen it. And I bet you the people on Dolan 24 Drive have also seen it, too. 50 1 As far as emergency vehicles, Burdeck and 2 Kellar are probably the only ones where you can 3 get to the other side of the town. I'm saying to 4 Golub, Rotterdam Industrial Park, Antonio Estates 5 and up in the manor on Dunnsville Road. 6 I wish you people would take under 7 consideration the fact that there are other 8 residents that live in the Town of Rotterdam off 9 of Kellar Avenue. It's growing. It's getting 10 bigger and bigger in that section. And for the 11 emergency vehicles, they have to use Burdeck or 12 Kellar Avenue to get to Route 7. That's all I 13 have. Thank you very much. 14 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 15 (Applause.) 16 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: I hope that's not true 17 about the trucks not pulling over for emergency 18 vehicles, or I hope it doesn't happen -- 19 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: It's true. 20 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: They don't pull over? The 21 Price Chopper trucks, I'm sure, pull over. 22 That's disturbing. There's a police officer back 23 there. Have him make a mental note. Thank you. 24 Yes, ma'am. 51 1 MS. STANTON: I'm Phyllis Stanton. I live at 2 617 Duanesburg Road. I don't believe there's too 3 many people here from Duanesburg Road. One of the 4 things that somebody has mentioned is widening of 5 Duanesburg Road. I've lived there for over 55 6 years, have been a resident and paying taxes, and 7 there is no way that you can widen Route 7. It's 8 a two-lane highway and many of the original houses 9 that are built between Burdeck and Kellar, they 10 have very little front lawns. There is no way 11 possible that you could widen without being right 12 on their doorstep. 13 Okay. And as far as getting out of my 14 driveway, I am a neighbor of Dolan Drive right by 15 the cemetery. It is impossible to get out of my 16 driveway. I've waited 15 to 18 minutes just to 17 get out of my driveway. Tractor trailers come 18 bumper to bumper, so do school buses come bumper 19 to bumper. And there is no way of getting off. 20 There is no shoulders for people to pull over. 21 And other trucks -- as someone else 22 mentioned, trucks are not covered with a canvas. 23 I have debris coming off of the trucks onto the 24 lawn, just debris to be picked up at all times. 52 1 Some of them are garbage trucks. Other are your 2 construction trucks. They're not covered. 3 As far as the noise, I have a great concern 4 about that, as it is with the trucks already 5 shifting down and with there being, as someone was 6 quoted, 1,500 of Golub plus another 15, 3,000 7 trucks a week going by. Already, my plaster is 8 cracking from the jarring of these trucks coming 9 down through the shifting of the gears. 10 Like I said, I'm not a new resident. I've 11 been there. I'm in my second home that I built in 12 Rotterdam because I was proud to be here, but this 13 is getting out of hand. 14 And as far as property value, I mean, this is 15 gonna destroy the property value of all these 16 people in Rotterdam. I'm right next door to Dolan 17 Drive, and we all have lovely homes and it's doing 18 a job. 19 The air pollution from all of these trucks -- 20 originally, when Golub bought this property, he 21 bought it with the intention supposedly, is what 22 they said, of having an office building. That 23 would have been one thing. Traffic and employees 24 would have been out of there between 5:00, 5:30. 53 1 Now, it's a warehouse. No way. That's gonna be 2 an all-night process. Day and night, lights are 3 gonna be on. You're gonna have diesel trucks 4 running. Many of us people who have been there a 5 long time, we're a little older, we have allergies 6 to all of this stiff and inhaling diesel stuff is 7 not good. Believe me, it's not good. 8 And with the warehouse versus anything else, 9 you're gonna have children loitering around. This 10 is what happened and, as I remember, it was one of 11 the problems with having the store that they 12 wanted in Rotterdam and that got voted down. It's 13 just terrible. It was one thing years ago when we 14 were first there, but now, you've got tremendous 15 additional traffic now that you have Exit 25A 16 there. We have tons and tons of trucks from 17 everywhere. It's just totally out of hand. And I 18 just want to say that I'm just totally against 19 this. 20 And, secondly, at the other meeting that was 21 over at the fire company, someone there was 22 stating a fact that on the -- I call it Army Depot 23 property, they've been given $3 million to be 24 taking down Buildings -- I believe it's 9 and 10. 54 1 They're gonna be demolished that's already 2 commercialized. Why can't a warehouse be there 3 if they're gonna be taking down buildings? 4 When all of us built there, Dolan Drive and 5 all of the projects, this was a residential area. 6 You shouldn't be mixing commercial like this. 7 Besides, there's a whole lot of property behind 8 Golub that could be used. They could even have 9 their own driveway coming off of the Thruway going 10 right into where the warehouse property is now. 11 And if all of these offices are going from 12 the present building downtown, you're gonna have 13 all that territory for warehousing, and I cannot 14 imagine their needing any more than that. Plus, 15 when someone spoke about the cold storage that's 16 presently in what I call the Army Depot property, 17 I happen to know somebody that works there and 18 there is considerable additional cold storage 19 which they don't even plan to use until 2010. 20 So there's an awful lot of property over 21 there that Golub could be using without destroying 22 the valuation of our homes, our residential 23 property for something of this sort. It just 24 seems that this is kind of an underhanded 55 1 situation. It was gonna be one thing. Now, it's 2 changed. And like someone said at the last 3 meeting, it sounds too much with all the pictures 4 like this is already a done deal and it's never 5 been brought up to be voted on before at this 6 time. Thank you very much. 7 (Applause.) 8 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Anyone else? 9 Okay. I'm going to have comments after 10 comments from the Planning Commission members. So 11 if there are no more comments, I will close the 12 public hearing. 13 UNIDENTIFIED SPEAKER: Isn't Mr. Tommasone 14 going to say something? 15 MR. TOMMASONE: You can go ahead and finish 16 your meeting. 17 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Go ahead, Steve. 18 MR. TOMMASONE: I was just gonna say a couple 19 quick things. 20 Steve Tommasone, Town Supervisor. My address 21 is 1337 Paul Avenue for the record, right around 22 the corner here. There's going to be multiple 23 opportunities -- I know Larry did, I think, a good 24 job describing to you what the process was at the 56 1 last meeting. That meeting, I was out of town, I 2 was not here. Typically, just to give you a 3 little bit of information about myself and how I 4 think that the process should happen here in the 5 town, and I think that the Planning Board does a 6 good job with it, is that I try not to attend the 7 Planning Commission meetings. It's not because 8 I'm disinterested. I'm very interested. 9 I read all the minutes of all the Planning 10 Board meetings. We have verbatim minutes that we 11 receive, all the Town Board members, we receive 12 them. So we know what's going on. 13 I also have daily discussions with people 14 here in the Department of Public Works and I've 15 talked to several of you that are in the room 16 here. I've been to some of your homes and I know 17 what your concerns are. 18 And we have a process under state law where 19 the Planning Commission has to make 20 recommendations to the Town Board for the zoning 21 changes and for other things here, and it's not 22 just involving this project but any project that 23 comes before the Town. 24 So I would appreciate your patience and I 57 1 appreciate all of you coming here tonight and hope 2 that you can reach out to us as elected officials 3 and we will be here. We'll come to your home, if 4 necessary, if you want to talk to us there, see 5 some direct impact. I'd be happy to do so. 6 But as far as the rest of the process as we 7 move forward, we'll be looking at the 8 recommendations from the Planning Board and the 9 Town Board will work towards the process as we 10 move forward. 11 Do you want me to answer questions right now 12 or do you want me to do it at my meeting? This is 13 your meeting. 14 Go ahead, Tom. 15 MR. YUILLE: Would you address that change of 16 zone, why it's coming at the end instead of the 17 beginning? 18 MR. TOMMASONE: It's an application issue. 19 If the applicant wants to put forth the change of 20 zone request, they can put forth the change of 21 zone request. It depends on what the process is 22 that's going through. It's not a situation where 23 we wouldn't entertain it. 24 As you know, having served on the Planning 58 1 Board, the Town Board has entertained zoning 2 requests from time to time for projects before and 3 projects after-the-fact. Oftentimes, what occurs 4 is if they know that the Planning Board may be 5 opposed or in favor from a poll perspective, we've 6 done that before on the Town Board as well, but 7 for us, a project of this magnitude, of this size, 8 we want to look at all the potential impacts. We 9 have to wait for the Golub Corporation to go 10 through all of the environmental impacts and 11 that's why they have these meetings. That's why 12 the meetings are public, so that you all have an 13 opportunity to tell not just the Golub Corporation 14 but the Town of Rotterdam what it is that's 15 important to you and what you believe needs to 16 either change or, you know, happen or not happen 17 with a particular project. 18 So that's the best I can tell you there. I 19 mean, we're not in a position where we're going to 20 go in and make a zone change without there being a 21 request made and the process at this point in time 22 is not to have that. 23 I think that, really, for the Town Board, I 24 think that by having -- my personal opinion -- I'm 59 1 gonna give you my personal opinion, not my 2 supervisor opinion, and not to say that they would 3 be different, but I have to qualify that because 4 I'm here as a resident, not as a member of the 5 Town Board, if you will, because this is not my 6 meeting, this is the Planning Board's meeting, and 7 that's this, is that I would not want to consider 8 a change of zone on a project of this size without 9 having all the information first. 10 We're talking about a change of zone request 11 for a residential piece of property or we already 12 have a commercial area or an industrial area or 13 some other -- I guess I want to say minimal impact 14 the Town Board can entertain a change of zone 15 request like we did recently. 16 For some people, unfortunately, it was 17 defeated, but that's what happens. You take your 18 chances with it. On, again, a project of this 19 size, it is, I think, a responsibility of not just 20 the Planning Board but of the Town Board to have 21 all the information first before they make a 22 decision. 23 MR. YUILLE: I hope you're gonna take into 24 account what the people brought up tonight about 60 1 the impact that it's gonna be on all the homes in 2 that vicinity. 3 MR. TOMMASONE: Absolutely. Absolutely. 4 MR. YUILLE: Because what you're saying here 5 if everything comes through -- 6 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: We're not getting you. 7 MR. TOMMASONE: One of the things I -- 8 MR. YUILLE: I don't want to get into a 9 debate. 10 MR. TOMMASONE: That's what will happen here. 11 I really don't want to do that either. We could 12 go back and forth all night that way. I don't 13 think it's fair to everybody. Public comments 14 from the public rather than hear me speak. 15 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Would you please explain 16 me something? 17 MR. TOMMASONE: Sure. 18 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Every action is a 19 reaction. If action is good, reaction is good. 20 If the action is bad, reaction is bad. Would you 21 please, okay, if everything goes the way it's 22 planned, what is their benefit and what is our 23 benefit? 24 MR. TOMMASONE: I think in general let me say 61 1 this; that, you know, one, you're talking about 2 a -- there have been a number of issues brought up 3 so we'd have to spend another hour here to go back 4 and forth. 5 MR. PASQUARIELLO: No. Just one. 6 MR. TOMMASONE: You and I already talked 7 about this a bit and that's this, is that when -- 8 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Do again. 9 MR. TOMMASONE: That's what family's about, 10 right? But anyway, here's the thing, it comes 11 down to this, very simply this: If you want me to 12 tell you what a positive impact is from the role 13 of Supervisor, the positive impact is job 14 creation, tax base, et cetera. If you want to 15 talk about negative impacts, of course, it's 16 quality of life issues, traffic, noise. All the 17 things that have been brought up here tonight are 18 issues that have to be analyzed. 19 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: If you're gonna ask 20 questions, you have to address the Board. 21 MR. TOMMASONE: Let's do this, if I can: If 22 you want to talk to me after the meeting, I'm 23 gonna stay here. I'll stay as long as you want me 24 to. 62 1 MR. PASQUARIELLO: Sorry, sir. That's all 2 right. 3 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. I have closed 4 the public hearing, but I'll -- 5 MR. COMENZO: If anybody thinks of anything 6 they haven't said at the public hearing, written 7 comments are gonna be accepted until May 18th, 8 which is a Monday. So if anything comes up that 9 you didn't hear tonight that may have not been 10 addressed, you can certainly provide written 11 comments to the Town on May 18th. 12 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: You have a question, sir? 13 You have to come up here. 14 MR. FONTAINE: My hand was up before the 15 meeting closed. 16 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: You gotta come up here. 17 Talk into the microphone, please. We have a steno 18 and we also have verbatim minutes being taped. 19 MR. FONTAINE: Yes. My name is Richard 20 Fontaine. I live at 41 Kellar Avenue. I see Mr. 21 Tommasone is here as an elected official. 22 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Address the Chair, 23 please. 24 MR. FONTAINE: As an elected official. Is 63 1 there anyone here from the county board that 2 should be here? 3 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: I don't see any, no. 4 MR. FONTAINE: Thank you. 5 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: That was it. Okay. 6 (Applause.) 7 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: All right. So, basically, 8 to make a simplified measure here, Price Chopper 9 has approached the Planning Commission to build a 10 warehouse. They did the application. We 11 determined right off the get-go that they will be 12 doing an EIS and that's where we stand now. 13 Tonight, we went through with your comments 14 about how you think that this project, if it's 15 built as on the drawings, will affect your 16 neighborhood. But the one word that I keep on 17 getting, coming from a lot of you -- and everybody 18 talked about noise, truck traffic and assessed 19 values and stuff, but one of the things that -- 20 the word that I kept on hearing from you, too, is 21 options and, yeah, I still believe that there are 22 options on this project. 23 With part of the drafting document, the 24 scoping document here, we're gonna -- you've 64 1 already brought up options. Price Chopper will 2 explore options, why, you know, they feel they 3 have to move the road. But, I mean, to an 4 untrained eye, that one is obvious, because right 5 now, the road bisects their property, so to 6 maximize the use of that. 7 Is there a different truck traffic route? 8 Are there different ways they could do that? 9 These are things that Price Chopper can explore 10 through the -- and if it's not made clear on the 11 documents, that's one thing I would like to see. 12 But that's a key word is options. That's why, you 13 know, the process gets -- and I get confused with 14 this sometimes, too, because I think that if -- 15 once this EIS is done, where does the engineering 16 come in? Where do the changes come in? 17 This is then something we would want to turn 18 over to the Town Board, give them a recommendation 19 for approval or disapproval for the zone change. 20 But I want to make everybody be sure that 21 option for me is one of the key words. This plan 22 you see here, I mean, it's, you know, one of the 23 things that they've been working on for, you know, 24 quite some time and it's still a work in progress. 65 1 I think that we all realize that and that's why so 2 many heads are better than one. I mean, if -- I 3 was waiting to hear -- I mean, there were some 4 other ideas that you guys come up with and I wrote 5 them down. This was at the other meetings but -- 6 and Price Chopper has been keeping notes also. 7 They're well aware of your suggestions. Some seem 8 good, some seem not so good, but I like the word 9 and I use it often here is options. So that's 10 what we're gonna be looking at. 11 And I really thank you for your comments and, 12 believe me, if you've got anything between now and 13 May 18th, you know, write them up, get them in to 14 us. 15 So I'm gonna ask for comments from the rest 16 of the Board right now. 17 I'll ask Mr. Brudos. 18 MR. BRUDOS: Mr. Chairman, I have a few 19 things that I'd like to put forward for 20 consideration in the scoping document. 21 Under 1.5, Project Alternatives to Be 22 Considered, I would specifically like to see 23 information about exchanging or swapping some of 24 their wetlands in the rear for wetlands in the 66 1 front. 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: They can't hear you. 3 MR. BRUDOS: Starting at 1.5, I'd like to 4 suggest, under Project Alternatives to Be 5 Considered, to specifically look at exchanging 6 wetlands in the rear of the property and the 7 possibility of recreating that wetlands in the 8 front of the property and placing the warehouse to 9 the back of the property. That would involve 10 getting -- you'd have to get involved with the 11 Army Corps of Engineers, and I wouldn't wish that 12 on anybody, but you know, I think I'd rather have 13 more mosquitoes and fewer trucks but that's just 14 an option. That's one thought. 15 Under 3.1.3, Proposed Mitigation Measures, 16 including the discussion of landscaping and 17 lighting, I'd also like to include architectural 18 design, if there are things that can be done to 19 the building itself, the color of it, whatever, to 20 hide it, soundproof it. 21 I know it's already been mentioned, under 22 Transportation, the traffic study they're asking 23 for -- it's talked about in here from 7:15 a.m. to 24 8:15 a.m. for the a.m. peak period, and 4:30 to 67 1 5:30 for the p.m. peak period, I think it's 2 important to get after-hours traffic impacts as 3 well. You know, 2:00 o'clock in the morning, a 4 24-hour period, so that we know what it's like all 5 day and all night. 6 Under 3.6.2, Potential Impacts For Noise, 7 potential impacts for noise from the heating and 8 ventilation, air-conditioning, refrigeration 9 equipment associated with the new warehouse, I 10 think that would be important to have that 11 information as well. 12 Visual Resources, 3.9, lighting design. If a 13 new warehouse is to go up, you really don't want 14 it -- I don't think there's any need to highly 15 light the back side of it facing Dolan Drive. If 16 you're gonna put it there, you're gonna hear 17 somebody cutting through the wall of your 18 warehouse. You hardly need it lit up. That would 19 be my opinion anyway. 20 I think that's all I have. 21 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 22 Ms. Flansburg. 23 MS. FLANSBURG: I'm trying to avoid 24 redundancy. I don't want to take all the bright 68 1 ideas away from everyone else down the line. So 2 we know all of the major issues that have been 3 brought up, noise, air, endangered species, things 4 like that. Some of the ones that I'm just 5 highlighting that came up specifically tonight are 6 coordinating with National Grid regarding the 7 change of Dunnsville Road, the gentleman that 8 brought up whether it goes parallel versus 9 perpendicular and the safety of the transmission 10 lines; the assessment study to include the 11 devaluation of the property once the -- if there 12 were to be a change of zone and the project to be 13 built out, also, the possibility -- the hazards 14 that might be associated with warehouse facilities 15 and cold storage issues. 16 To piggyback off of Mr. Brudos about the 17 architectural side of things if it were to get to 18 that point, the location of the truck loading 19 doors in relation to the residents on Dolan Drive 20 and the truck routes within the site, to mitigate 21 some of those issues. 22 The wastewater treatment plant capacity study 23 on that as well, particularly with all of the 24 projects that have been brought forth and will be 69 1 coming forward in the Town that will be a further 2 burden to the plant. The gentleman, I believe, 3 that mentioned the southern portion of Horizon 4 Boulevard if Dunnsville Road were to be relocated, 5 the additional burdens that it could place on the 6 change in traffic flow over in that area as well. 7 And with regard to other traffic issues, the 8 particular issues that pertain to the Kellar 9 Avenue neighborhood and also somebody, you know, 10 looking into further, the gentleman that mentioned 11 the Comp Plan stating that Route 7 was already at 12 capacity or would be at capacity by 2005 and where 13 that puts us now that we're almost five years 14 later. That's all I have at this point. 15 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 16 One question just comes to mind. Some of the 17 residents mentioned vibration. Is there a 18 vibration meter that measures the amount of 19 vibrations where you could have a pre-study of 20 what they are now and projected study of what the 21 vibrations of some of the homes would expect to be 22 with the increased truck traffic? 23 I know it's probably hard because there's a 24 lot of variables: Was there a bump in the road? 70 1 How much weight is in the truck? There is -- I've 2 asked and nobody seems to know if there's like -- 3 there's a decibel level for noise. Is there a 4 vibration meter? 5 I was just wondering if something like that 6 existed, some way to measure what the existing one 7 is now and what it's projected to be. So we don't 8 know. But there's probably too many variables, 9 so I don't know. Just something to throw out 10 there. 11 Mr. Renna. 12 MR. RENNA: The only thing in regard, Mr. 13 Chairman, is if there is a scale of measurement as 14 to what the minimums and maximums might be. I 15 don't know if that exists either. But I would 16 like to commend the citizens that have turned out 17 tonight. You really did your homework to make 18 this process work and this is the process and this 19 is how it goes and, you know, without your 20 comments, who knows what happens? 21 Your comments will be taken into 22 consideration by this Board, by the engineer, by 23 Golub, and that's how it works. You covered 24 almost every question and concern that I had, so 71 1 thank you very much for that. 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 3 Mr. Denny. 4 MR. DENNY: I feel the same way. I believe 5 that the taxpayers of Rotterdam have done a very 6 excellent job in researching what the problems 7 would be. And I hope that Golub Corporation takes 8 into consideration all the comments that were made 9 here tonight. 10 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 11 Mr. Karp. 12 MR. KARP: Yes, Mr. Chairman. The only thing 13 that I would like to add is we talked about 14 measuring air quality, measuring noise. I'd like 15 to make sure that's done in proximity to the 16 residences on Dolan Drive so we can get a better 17 evaluation as to the impact on those residences. 18 I also like the suggestion that was made here 19 that the traffic study be for a 24-hour period. 20 But I also like the suggestion that maybe the 21 traffic study ought to be done for a week to get 22 an accurate reading of what the traffic volumes 23 are during the course of the week. 24 So I'd like to see that added to this 72 1 Environmental Impact Statement. And other than 2 that, pretty much, there's been a lot of comments. 3 I echo what the other Board members said that 4 those comments will all be given consideration as 5 we go through the process. That's all I have. 6 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you, Mr. Karp. 7 Mr. Savini. 8 MR. SAVINI: Yes. All the questions I have, 9 too, have been addressed by either the Board 10 members or the public. A lot of valuable 11 questions and concerns came out of the public 12 tonight and I'm confident that they'll all be 13 addressed in the Environmental Impact Statement. 14 That's all I have. 15 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 16 Mr. Einstein, do you have any comments? 17 MR. EINSTEIN: Nothing further, sir. 18 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Thank you. 19 Mr. Comenzo, will you explain the next 20 process? 21 We wait until the 18th -- they have until the 22 18th; correct? 23 MR. COMENZO: Comments will be accepted til 24 the 18th of May. After that time, we will put 73 1 together a package and -- 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: One question. The 3 comments have to be in writing? Can they be -- 4 MR. COMENZO: The public hearing is closed. 5 There's no Planning Commission meeting before -- 6 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Can the comments be by 7 e-mail? 8 MR. COMENZO: Either e-mail or written 9 comments. And I'll make sure that the applicant 10 receives those. Clough Harbour & Associates, 11 which is the engineering firm that Mr. Einstein 12 works for, and myself and the Planning Commission 13 Chairman will be sitting down and going through 14 all the comments to work on a draft scoping 15 document that will address the comments that were 16 brought up here tonight. 17 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Mr. Coan. 18 MR. COAN: I think Peter accurately summed 19 that up. 20 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Okay. Does anybody else 21 have any questions? 22 (Affirmative response.) 23 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Yes, sir. Come forward. 24 MR. MCAULIFFE: What's the timeline on 74 1 answering these questions? 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Go ahead. 3 MR. MCAULIFFE: I'm just curious as to what 4 the timeline is on answering these questions that 5 were put forward? How do we get your response? 6 MR. COMENZO: Once the draft scoping document 7 is put together, this Board will have to vote on a 8 final scoping document which will then be handed 9 to the applicant to say, "Here's your homework. 10 Here's what you need to look at. Here's what 11 needs to be in the Draft Environmental Impact 12 Statement." 13 At that point, they will go back and work 14 with their team to put together this Environmental 15 Impact Statement. I would anticipate it will 16 probably take several weeks or a month or two 17 maybe til the applicants return. And if you're on 18 the sign-in sheet, you will be notified when the 19 next meeting is and when those actions will occur. 20 MR. MCAULIFFE: You're saying we'll be kept 21 in the loop as this process goes forward or it 22 just goes back for final review and you guys stamp 23 it? 24 MR. COMENZO: The applicants obviously are 75 1 looking to move quickly, but it'll probably be 2 several weeks and maybe several meetings before 3 they get back before this body once they're given 4 the final draft scope and they go and prepare the 5 Draft Environmental Impact Statement. 6 MR. MCAULIFFE: Any changes, we'll know about 7 it when they happen; is that what you're saying? 8 MR. COMENZO: Any meetings that are held by 9 the Planning Commission, if you're on the list, I 10 believe Lisa is the gal who was here tonight. 11 MR. MCAULIFFE: When you adopt the program to 12 put it forward, when does that happen? Does it 13 happen at a meeting or does it happen behind 14 closed doors? I understand you have 30 days to do 15 something about it. 16 MR. COMENZO: The final scope will be adopted 17 by this Board. 18 MR. MCAULIFFE: In front of everyone? 19 MR. COMENZO: Yes. 20 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Yeah. It will be at a 21 meeting. 22 MR. MCAULIFFE: Thank you. 23 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: The final scope is 24 everything that you've asked the applicant to 76 1 answer. That's the final scope. And being final 2 is that we're hoping or -- there may be something 3 else you think of between now and May 18th. When 4 we're satisfied that we think we got all the 5 questions covered, we think that we have all the 6 questions that you've asked and all the concerns 7 of everybody, if we think that's complete, that's 8 when we'll okay the final scope and then they go 9 to work at addressing all the questions and issues 10 that were raised. 11 Any other questions? 12 (Affirmative response.) 13 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Yes, ma'am. 14 MS. COPPOLA: Andrea Coppola, 625 River Road. 15 I just would like to remind the Board that 16 school's gonna be closing in June. So if you're 17 gonna do a traffic study for a week, school will 18 be closing. I don't know how you're gonna decide 19 to do it. 20 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Okay. Good point. Good 21 point. Thank you. Anybody else, any questions? 22 (No affirmative response.) 23 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Board members, anything 24 else? 77 1 (No affirmative response.) 2 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: Anybody, anything to add? 3 (No affirmative response.) 4 CHAIRMAN DILALLO: If not, I'll entertain a 5 motion to adjourn. 6 (Proceedings adjourned at 8:57 p.m.) 7 * * * * * 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 78 1 C E R T I F I C A T I O N 2 3 I, THERESA L. KLOS, Shorthand Reporter and Notary 4 Public within and for the State of New York, do hereby 5 CERTIFY that the foregoing record taken by me at the time 6 and place noted in the heading hereof is a true and 7 accurate transcript of same, to the best of my ability 8 and belief. 9 10 11 ------------------------ 12 THERESA L. KLOS 13 14 Dated: May 20, 2009. 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24